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P.O. BOX 692 THUNDER BAY "p" ONTARIO

Issue No. 1 August 5, 1970
This newsletter is the first of a
regular series which will be distributed
to members of Town Talk and to other
interested people. Town Talk acttvities
have been extensive over the past few
months, and a newsletter is essential in
order to keep everyone up to date. This
first issue can't cover all of our recent
involvements, but includes two articles
of general introduction to the organization's most important current activities,
and some summary notes on the Town Talk
television programme ACTION/REACTION.
More detailed reports o~ these major
projects, and descriptions of Town Talk 1 e
other activities, will be'included in
succeeding newsletters.
COMMUNITY TELEVISION FOR THUNDER BAY ' A TOWN TALK PROPOSAL
This is a crucial year for Canadian
cable television companies. Stricter
regulations concerning community programming, educational television, American
content, and whatnot htwe been proposed
by the CRTC, and the cable companies are
scurrying about in varying degrees of
apoplexy and despair. The dust has not
settled completely, but.when it does
Thunder Bay will have a community television channel.
The question of who will control
that community television channel will
begin to be decided when the City Council
meets on August 10th to hear the proposal
put forth by Town Talk.
When Town Talk meets with the
Council, its report will be the culmination of many months of research and
preparation. It takes into account all
of the relevant factors and ends with
concrete, specific, reasoned and reasonable guidelines as to the use of the new
ch,rnnel. We are, after all, presented

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with the basic fact that according to
the Canadian Radio and Television
Commission, L~kehead Videon must provide a channel for community television.
So far so good. The cruch comes with
the matter of control - and with the
definition of what constitutes a true
conununity chAnnel.
The basic idea is clPssically
simple: a community chAnnel thAt is
not controlled by th~ community is a
farce.

What we WAnt, and luwe every
possibility of obtaining, is~ channel
to which members of the community have
free and non-eyclusive access. A
large number of individuals pnd groups
have read our proposal (Connnunity Television and You) and have already indica~
ted to us ways in which they would like
to use the channel. That's the way it
should be -- the community making its
own progrAms, instead of being shaped
by progrAms designed by somebody else,
somewhere else.
The proposal cAlls for a Charter
Board widely representative of the
community, which would hire a professional production company on a yearly
basis. In this way individUBls end
groups (YOU, if you're interested)
provide the 1118.terial for programming,
while the production compAny will
ensure that the programs are of professional quality. Funds for this
channel will come from the money
Lakehead Videon would otherwise have
to spend doing its own programming.
Our proposal will probably not mean
an increase in Videon•s fees, since
they are already very high for the
service available.

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All a dream? Not so. Town Talk
has not been developing these ideas in
a vaccum. We have a great deal of support, both locally and nationally.
Because of its interest in our
proposal, the National Film Board has
a large investment of equipment and
teaching personnel in Thunder Bay this
summer to train local people in the
techniques of film and video-tap~ng.
The F'ilm BoRrd feels that its contribution here, to quote a senior executive,
is "the most significant thing the Film
Board is doing in Canada right now."
Two Cabinet ministers - Robert
Andras and Robert Stanbury - have stated
very emphatically their whole-hearted
support for the proposal. At a conference on telecommunications earlier this
year, David Hughes, the author of the
original proposal, presented the ideas
contained in it to the participants.
He received enthusiastic support from,
among others, Eric Kierans and Stanley
Burke. Mr. Burke has twice been in
Thunder Bay in connection with the proposal, and has become a member of our
Advisory Board.
Locally, upwards of 4,000 copies
of Community Television and You have
been circulated in English, Finnish,
French, Italian, Polish and Ukrainian.
They have been well received. His
Worship Mayor Laskin has personally
endorsed the objectives contained in our
proposal. Aldennan Bert Badanai has
been attending meetings of our Steering
Committee, and several other aldennen
have indicated their support.
So this is where we stand now. By
mid-September, the cable company's agreement with the city comes up for renewal.
If the City Council endorses our proposal, they will write it into the conditions of Videon•s new licenceo If this
happens, a very significant bit of history will have been made and this
community will be the richero
It is not an e~aggeration to say
that the eyes of the cable-casters of
Canada will be on Thunder Bay and the
decision rea.ched by its City Council after
our presentation on August lOtho If you
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feel strongly about the possibilities
of community television, you could
add your voice to ours by phoning your
"favourite alderman" to indicate your
support.
by Lindsay Morgan
COMMUNITY FILM-MAKING -- AN EXPERIMENTAL PH.OJECT SPONSORED BY 'IDWN TALK AND
CHALLENGE F'OR CHANGE
Challenge for Change is the name
of a programme of film and community
development pro.jects backed. by the
National Film Bo~rd of Canada and other
departments and agencies of the federal
government. When Town Talk approached
the Film Board for ~ssistance with the
realiz~tion of its plans for a cormnunity television service, it was natural,
given the potential of such P proposal
for exciting community progress and
participation, that Challenge for Crumge
should be the programme under which the
experiment was undertRken.
From the outset, the emphasis in
Thunder Bay has been on relev~nce to
this community. Local residents are
being trained in their own community in
making of films and video tapes about
local sub.iects. As a result, the project is progressing very satisfactorily
and generating a lot of momentUtl\ amongst
the students and the community et lerge.
By August 6th, shooting will be nearly
completed, leaving a full month for
editing and completion.
Community interest and support have
been most gratifying. At the "open
house" held on July 21st, messages of
the warmest encouragement and promises
of support were delivered by Mayor L~skin,
federal cabinet ministers, Robert Andras
and Robert Stanbury, and broadcaster
Stanley Burke. Perhaps even more significant are the daily enquiries and suggestions received from the public at
largeG
Much of the public interest has been
focused on the video tape recording
aspects of the programme. Initially it
was assumed that film training would be
the central activity, but since the
beginning, requests have come from e wide

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variety of community groups asking for
coverage of local events. These requests have been met as often ~s possible, with the resulting discovery that
the training project is already serving
a very real community need. By recording local events, giving peopie a voice
through V'l'R, and encouraging playback
of this material to other groups, the
Thunder Bay Community Film Project is
providing a service unavailable elsewhere. Typical of the requests received
for VTR coverage are the following:
Citizens meeting with Robert Stanbury
A conference of ethnic groups
An Indian reserve meeting
A Sailing Regatta
A tape for the YMCA on youth
activities
A tape on work with emotionally
disturbed children
A church conference
The most significant point about
this is the fact that these requests are
voluntary and unsolicited-coming from
the community ratr,er than being imposed
on it by some external decision-making
group. Inadvertently, then, the training project is responding to the community in much the way th11t the community
channel proposed by Town Talk might
operate. In this process, the students
are receiving precisely the varied experiences which should make them capable of
providL,g a high quality of programme
production when the community channel is
achieved.
To summarize briefly, the first
five weeks of the project have seen the
completion of a studio, the completion
of initial training in film techniques,
major progress on the production of three
films, extensive VTR shooting and playback, and acceptance by the community of
this new opportunity for public access
to the media. If the next five weeks
continue to be as productive, then the
aims of the Film Board and of Town Talk
in underta.king the Thunder Bay Community
Film Pro,ject will have every hope of
being achieved in full.
by Sandy Burnett

ACTION/REAC'l'ION WAS A SUCCESS, BUT
THE LAST PROGRANME WAS CAN CELLED-

BY CKPR

ACTION /REAC'l'ION, a weekly television presentation of Town Telk,
appeared with the cooperation of CKPR
for more thAn twenty weeks th~~ ye~r.
The show dealt with many topics of
local interest, and was designed to
answer questions telephoned in by its
viewers ..
Early in February, after five
weeks of programming, an ~udience survey was conducted to determine what
success was being met in the ~ttempt
to provide the community with stimulating pArticipatory television. The
public response, a sl.11llIM.ry of which
follows, was most encouraging. In
addition to providing numerous con•
structive suggestions for the improvement of the programme, sufficient
interest was aroused that from that
time on, every topic dealt with on
ACTION/REAC'l'ION has its origin with a
request from the community.
Respondents were asked to watch at
least the ne:,rt two programmes following
receipt of the questionnaire and then
to ~newer the following questions:
What do you think 8 bout the
a) time slot (11:45 p.m. Sundey)

b) length of the programme (onehalf hour)
c) quality of the progrannne
Do you feel that the programme
should be continued? If so, what sub-·
jects would you like to see discussed,
filmed, etc., in the future?
Response was as follows:
Time slot:
agreeable - 17
too late
- 73
no opinion - 4
Length:

good
too long
too short
no opinion

- 64
- 2
- 15
- 13

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Quality:

fair-good - 76
poor
- 2
no opinion - 16

Continuance of programme:
positive - 80
negative
- 1
no opinion - 13
The last programme of the series
was planned for May 31, 1970, but two
days before it was scheduled to appear
the mana.gement of CKPR infonned us that
the programme would not be broadcast.
CKPR's decision was particularly disappointing, and inconvenient, because
our preparations for this last show
were more extensive than usual. Arrangements had been made for the programme to
run more than' its customary length.
Mr. Stanley Burke well-known news co11D11entator, had agreed to appear as a special
guest, and the topic for discussion, "The
Media and the Community", was of great
interest. Every effort was made to assemble~ qualified panel for the discussion,
and this panel included two senior local
broadcasters, a former professional journalist, a senior librarian, and a university student official, as well as Mr. Burke.
Senior management from the local daily
newspapers would not join the panel, and
they forbade junior personnel from doing
so.

We view this arbitrary action by
CKPR as an example •of why a community
controlled television service must be
made available in Thunder Bay~

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P.O. BOX 692 THUNDER BAY "p" ONTARIO TELEPHONE (807) 34·5·2518

�J\UCl'ST 19, 1970
This is the second ToHn Talk ne,·v sl c tter anc.1 agaiH there
~s more to report t11cl1_1 tl!erc :i s . tir,1e anj space to report
1 t. Consequently , tl11s 1 s sue w1l 1 cone en trate on .the
community television proposnl, a matter of trreat current
importance an&lt;l one on which TO\vn Tall-. has c;llected a great
deal of infornation.

CITY COUNCIL REACTS TO
EXCITING N:CW PROPOSAL
I

Af! exciting evening in th e
~1story of Thunder Bay oc~ure&lt;l
~ionday, August 10th, whe n Town
Talk proposed to City Council
that a community televis ion
channel be started here.
T~e event was augmented by a
v~deo-tape_presentation , intensive questioning from council
members, extensive cover age by
all local news media and a large
l~yman audience. Toronto's
newspaper, The Globe and Mail
also carried the story.
'
David Ilughes·and Lindsay Morgan
spoke on .behalf of Town Talk.
The proposal was called " The
mo~t exciting an&lt;l signif icant
thing to happen in broad~asNtinghin Canada anJ, I believe,
1n ort America," by No.el ~loore
programme director of Cablecastin~ Lt1., a cable company
operating 1n Calgary , Winnipeg
and To.ronto.
In reply to a question f rom
Al~lerman Bert. Badanai, Mr. Moore
said he thought Town Tal k's proposal would contribute significantly to any regulations proposed by the Canadian RadioTelevision Commission f or cable
systems throughout Canada.
The presentation took a n hour
extended by the interes t of •
the aldermen, as shown in their
questio~s. Thef particularly
wanted 1nformat1on on fin ancing,
a~&lt;l how access to an&lt;l programming on the channel woul d be controlled.
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Mr. Ilughes replied that it w.as
Town Talk's opinion that the
existing rate structure of
Lake head Videon ,was sufficient
to finance a prciposed annual
operating budget . of $240,000,
The final de~isicfns on finan~ing,
he pointed out, rest with the
CRTC in Ottawa. • ,
,{'

Mr. Hughes welcomed Alderman
Don Aedy's suggestion that subscribers to the service have a
voice in the op~ration of the
channel.
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The possibility of the channel
coming under the influence and
abuse of a minority group concerned Alderman Charles Johns ton , ~1. D •

• ·~ ·,

Mr. Hughes replied that since
the question of controlling
such a potentially powerful
me~ium was paramount, that
function would rest with the
charter board r,presenting the
whole community ..

.~

One highlight of;. the presentation was a twelve-minute videotape showing of iome of the work
done hy trainees of the National
Film Board's su~er project.
,, ..

The efforts of t~ose completing
the tape were cettainly worthwhile and appreciated.
Town Talk is grateful to city
council fur ' the attention given
the proposal, . and looks forward
to a favourable decision in the
near future.
,., -by Paul Inksettcr
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�cmwliNITY IU3SPONSE f AVOURADLI TO
TILEVISION SIRVICE

On ~larch 25, 1970, Town Talk release&lt;l a draft proposal outlining
a community service television
idea which it felt woul&lt;l best meet
T}rnnder Bay and region's community
concerns and identity nee&lt;ls.
The report, prep:.-1red by Dayid•T:i.
Jlughes, related the technology
of cable television to local nee&lt;ls
and stressed public access to the
medium. It s]1owe&lt;l how the Canadian Radio-Television Commission's
guidelines for cable programming
could be applied locally in new,
exciting ways.
Copies were circulated to citizens
an&lt;1 elected officials, and to local
organizations in an attempt to
1n e as u re the react ion to and need
fer 'such a service.
Of the 103 groups canvassed, 48
replied. All in&lt;licated approval,
n11d some programming suggestions
were included. Letters of encouragencnt were also received from
individuals Hho had not been specifically solicited.

Departments; Lakehead Board of
Iducation; ethnic groups: Indian
Youth Friendship Centre, Le Club
Canaclien-Francais &lt;le Thunder Bay;
covernDcnt agencies: Parks and Recreation Department, City r:£ Thunder
Bay, 0Htario IIurnan Rights commission
Ca 11c1 c1 a l'l an p ow c r Centre , Nat ion a 1
Pilm noar&lt;l of Canada; Department
of the Secretary of State, Citizen-~hip Br2ncb; health services:
takehead Psychiatric Ilospital; Ad- \
diction Research Foundation; pro- •
fessional associations: ·rhun&lt;ler Bay
Hedical Society• Chamber of Comr.1erce;
Lakclrna.d L0llour Council, Ontario
Secondary School Teachers' FeJeration
service clubs: Rotary Club; Thunder
Day South Jayccttes; Canadian Club;
social welfare an&lt;l assistance: Thunder Ray United Appeal; Thunder Bay
Branch, Canadian Red Cross; Credit
Counselling Service; Lakehea&lt;l Family
Counselling J\r,cncy; Lal:.cheaJ Social
Planninr Co~ncil; Department of
Social and Fan ily Services; youth
arcncics: Bic{ rrotLer Association;
N~rtlrncstern . . Regional Council, Boy
Scouts of Canadao
nany new responses have been received since the results of the questionnaire were compiled. There has
been no negative response to date.

The following organizations·respondecl: art, hobby groups: Thunder
Bay Naturalists' Club, Thunder Bay
liis tor ica 1 Society, Lakehead Sym-.;
• phony :'• rches tra Board, Cambrian
Players; churcJ1 groups: Thunder
Day Council of" Clergy, Religious
Broadcasting Committee, Salvation
Army, WaysiJe Church Centre; Citizens' action groups: Single Parents' Action Corps, Single Parents'
Group, Lakehea&lt;l Anti-Pollution
Comrnitteei Operation Employment,
I-Iappy Jian&lt;licap CluL, Consumers'
Action Comnittee; correctional
agencies: Industrial Farm an&lt;l Train
ing Centre; e&lt;lucational organizations: Association for Enrly
Childhood [&lt;lucation, Ontario Dept ..
_of Fclucation; Youth ancl Recreation
Ercmch; Lakchea&lt;l University and
Confederation College Extension

ON THE FRONT PAGE.

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Iditine film at the Thunder
Evy Community film Project
Headquarters. The project is being
Si)Onsored by the Challenge for Change
pr og r arnn1e of t11 e Nat ion a 1 r i lm Boa nl
•in cooperation \vi th TO\m Ta H--o
Top:
Robert surnuury (left) and RK
Andras (right), members of the
Fc d c r a 1 Ca 1J in et , c1 is cu s s th e co r.rn1Un it y
television proposal ,dth David Hughes
of t11 e Town Talk steering commit tee.
noth nr. Andras an&lt;l Mr. Stanlrnry are
enthusiastic supporters of the proposal.
not toPl: II an~ Oome s, a location sound
mixer Hith the National Film
noard. i\!r. Oorncs has been in Thunder
P[ly since June advising the film project in tJ1e tcchn iques of sound ancl
videotape recording.

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Left:

�INTERHT REPORT ON PERSONAL
INTERVIEW SlTRVEY

BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF DATA

This interim report presents a
brief summary of some of the data
derived through personal' interviews concerning the Community
TV proposal.
It is also possible
at this time to see seve r al trends
beginning to appear th rou ghout
the data, outlining needs of the
cor.1munity which could i)e met
through the medium .ofA community
channel.
It is logical that the comm~n~ty
channel if it is to operate 111
Thunder'Bay and region, must
reflect the needs of the many
facets of this and surrounding
communities. For this reason,
the sample of people interviewed
must also represent these various
factions.
SANPLE BREAKDOWN
Total number interviewed to date
·sex

Occupation

Males
F'emales

44
24

Professional &amp;
Agency people 16
Non professional
.(blue. collar,
housewives, •
students, etc.) 52

Number · of people basically
for the proposal
Number of people basically
against the proposal

65
3

Information gathered in interviews,
however, goes much deeper _~han the
initial for, or against reaction;
it also offers qualitative material. The foll01dng represents
some constructive opinions given
by various members of this community.
-the educational exposure could
be fantastic; the concept has
local and regional implications;
it could be used to tackle
community affairs and a meaningful understanding; try not to
dupli~a.te facilities no~present
in- TV o
- : investigate human resources
and spread into the community;
you must not be too rigid because
change is a reality; maximize
results, search out what people
want; don't necessarily shove it
.at them.
-it could supply motivation to
kids seeing themselves on TV, .
especially in local sports; it
could also cas.e the class struggle
so.prevalent in thi~ city; people
could be tied together through
kno'wledge - right now decisio·ns
·are made here by a few
11

. Community

From Thunder Bay 58
P,istrict
10

Age range

84 years - 14 years

This sample represents only the
initial , exploratory .attempt
. at
the study, and more 1nterv1ews are
needed to balance the sample and
be more repr~sentative of the
community -i.e. concentration
on various ethnic and racial groups
business organizations and internal
neighbourhoods.
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-it can be used to get feedback to
organizations about their programs
it can also be used to publicize
their programs and educate the
community on what is going ono
-could ass•ist community awareness
and community understanding concerning ethnic groups (This point is
very important in a pluralistic
community such as Thunder Bay)
-A community channel can be used
to bring people together and provide a meaningful dialogue, pres en t in'g both s ides of issues so

�people can make up their own
minds; there arc also citizen's
groups which need support from
the public.

a chance to express its views in
public also.

The above comments are selected
from interviews with people in
social agencies and other professions. The following responses
are excerpts from interviews with
others and one can see what the
professional people suggest corresponds closely to the needs expressed by members of the community at large.
-Like to see prograns explaining
drugs and why people take themf
naybe use a panel lihere people
can ask questions froJn the audience.
-Like to know the difference between the different political parties; I like information prograr:1s as long as they nre easy to
understand - they ~an't be too
d~gnified.
-Community has to keep pace with
what is going on; this community
has to wake up) interested in
sports such as high school football and peewee hockey; also
would like to see the symphony;
channel would give people the
opportunity to find out more
about other sections of th~ community.
-need for prmgrams that present
both sides of issues; need
information programs about
income tax unemployment, welfare
and other agencies - how they
function, and hpw one goes about
approaching an agency.
~need more civic affairs programs
local plays, local candid camera,
why isn't it a fact now? local
talent is just going to wast~.
-would provide time for public
views; force politicians to take
a stand, knowing the public has
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-it is about time people spoke out,
telling sponsors, etc., what we
want to watch, rather than what
the powers want to feed us.
-fear of control by managejnent;
need to know about young people;
should get them more involved in
the community; also involve the
senior citizen; like to see more
on schools; if education programs
are used they shouldn't be too
technical; should get people together to decide what is put on;
can't always stress bad things.
-the average guy is passive becanse life is too complicated:
there is too much conflict now people feel the stress; family
life is getting weaker; most
average people have no solutions
which makes them feel worse; some
don't feel·alive any more; they
need controversy to shock them out
of it.
-some way of airing ,ublic views
is needed which cannot be pressured
give the average guy a chance;
interested in stock car racing and
sports; news perhaps will not be
biased; the channel cannot be,
controlled by any m~nority.
'

The- above comments give the reader
.some indication of needs, and transmit feelings of various people in
this community towards the communi,y
television concept. The responses
illustrate what could be provided
by various commu~ity institutions
and organizations to meet some~£
these needs. Constructive content
of the above opinions also indicates
the feasibility of a citizens'
Charter B6ard, as indicated in the
original proposal.
This report may appear to be too
one-sided to some, but the fact remains that many agree with the
concept, understandable since the
propos~l represents an added ser-

�vice and a new experience requiring community involvement and
active participation. Many expect that the proposal w1;1 not
go through because those 1n power
wi 11 try to st op it . r.1any fee 1
that this channel will end up
like everything else - in the
hands of a select few. Added
cost and duplication of facilities
are also mentioned as matters
which r~quire co-ordination.
Those interviewed have also stressed the need for presentation of
both sides of any issue and seem
to be searching for unbiased presentations. These concerns will
definitely have io be taken into
consideration in the final plans
for establishing the channel, its
financing, supervision and programming.
Data received is much too incomplete yet to provide an adequate
a~alysis of a working theory of
community television. The other
part of the social research,
which will not be described at
this time, includes an analysis of
several local studies which pertain to local needs. Also, information is being compiled through
participant observation of local
meetings and events, as well as
those in surrounding areas. Seve- •
ral interesting projects are being videotaped and will provide
information on communjty application to the television. We
hope to present at a later date
a fairly comprehensive description of some of the needs of
this community and the surrounding district, and how some of
these needs nay be met through the
medium of a community channel.
report by J. Hyder

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SOME QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
AilOUT COMMUNITY TELEVISION
1.

How will .the "Charter Board"
work?

Town Talk does not wish to impose
a structure upon an organization which
must be democratic from the word go
and f6r that reason no concrete
proposals have been made. Many
suggestions have been received and
lawyers are presently preparing a
report on the various alternativei.
Certain points, however, seem selfevident at this time. For examplerepresentatives from important organizations and institutions such as
the Board of Education, the
University and College, City Council, The Chamber of Commerce, etc.
must be included. In addition,
some formula of representation
for the '.' average citizen" must be
determined, and suggestions in
this area are especially needed. It is expected that Town Talk
will have a report with recommendations for the constitution
of the Charter Board by August 21st.
A period of review by the appropriate authorities and at public
meetings should follow, before
a draft charter is completed,
2.

What about ·the people of
Northwestern Ontario outside
Thunder Bay?

Videon has repeatedly made assurances that every section of Thunder
Bay wil1 be served by cable within the ne.ar future.. Most of· the
major towns in Northwestern·
Ontario have cable service, and
the companies in those towns
are generally not large enough to
produce significantly quantitative
community programing. If community television were in the future
organized o~ a regional basis, and
the CRTC might require that this
be done, then communications
among the people of Northwestern
Ontario would be greatly facilitated. Even simple program

�exchanges h'ould be a contribution.
3.

How important is Community
Television?

In a recent period, total
television viewing in the Thunder
nay urban area was 2,210,400
hours a week, or 22.9 hours on
the average for every person
over the age of two. It . is
obvious that television is a
vital force in this commun·i ty,
an&lt;l that any a&lt;ldition to the
amount of locally-originated programming, and the provision of
access to programming for
large numbers of citizens, would
be important to the community.
t,iany people are concerned ab8ut
the high proportion of
American televis'ion in Canada,
and in Thunder Bay it has been
shown that teenagers as a group
~atch more American television than &lt;lo other groups. A
service should be available which
will "win back" these viewers, and
the comr.mnity television might
accomplish this.
4.

What effect would community
television have on CKPR,
Lakel1cad Vidcpn, and the
public iristitutions which
have television facilities?

There is no question that cable
television cuts into CKPR's
audien~e. Recent figures
show !:hat when homes sub~cribe
to Videen, the percentage of
time spent watching CKPR instead
of other stations drops from
about 95\ to about 42\. But
Vic.lean is a prosperous local
e11t~rprise and it cannot be put
out of business. The ideal compromise is fer CKPR to keep all of
the ocal television advertising
business, which it needs, and for
the cable subscription fees to
pay for the community television
service, which would not carry
any advertising.
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As for co-operation between CKPR
and coml"mnity television, this could
probably be worked out very easily
because there would be no competi~
tion for the advertising dollar.
CKPR, being a network affiliate,
has only so much time each day
for local programs. It cannot, for
example, broadcast entire hockey
games. The community channel,
however, could cover such events
and pass on the highlights to
CKPR. CKPR, in turn, might cooperate with the community service in news gathering. •
The studio facilities at Hammarskjold lti~~h Sc~ ool, Confederation
College, and Lakehead Uuiversity
could, with community television,
be used for broadcasting, as well
as for tr·a ining. The present
situation, where three e&lt;lucational
institutions provide training in
television, and there is only one
television broadcaster in town,
wot1ld come to au end.

s.

What is the role of Town Talk~

Town Talk, as a non-profit community
service organization, is simply
trying to get community television
off the ground. Since its for, mation in 1967, Town Talk has supported and participated in many
worthwhile projects, and community
television might be the biggest and
best yet.
, 6.

~hould City Council make a decision about community television, or sl,ould it be left
entirely up to the government in
Ottawa?
It would be unfortunate if comMunity television didn't grow from
the community itself, and Council
should be a principle local body
contributing to the formation of this community service.
Purthermorc,Council has considered
matt c rs de a 1 i n ~, ll it h 1 o ca 1
commuHications in the past, an&lt;l
it is City Council which mu5t

�approve agreements between Videen
and. the city-owned PUC and
telephone utility. Council has
had reason in past yenrs to
include a number of restrictions
and requirements on Lakehead Videen
and with the possibility of
genuine community television as
proposed· by Town Talk• there is
n~ reason why Council should
not participate in its formatio~.
7.

Would comMunity television
mean interference with
private enterprise?

Cable television companies are
privately owned, but because they
are given monopoly privileges,
because they mak~ use of the
public airways, because television service in Canada must
develop in an orderly way, and
because all owners of mass media
have a great responsibility to
the people of Canada, they are
regulated by the Federal government. As far as com~unity television is concerned, only the
cnTc has the power to decide
whether it will be established.
At the local level. Videon
has a monopoly to serve all
those who want a choice of
television programs other than·
those offered by CKPR. Thus
Lakehead Videon. although privately owned• provides a service whith
is public in character and
which is regulated by the public
authorities.
In addition, many of the facilities used by Lakehead Videon
arc publicly owne4. These include
the actual cable in the former
city of Port Arthur, the poles
to which the cable 1s attached
throughout the city, and the
service personnel of the PUC
who install and service the cable~
thus Lakehead Videon is a service
somewhere between a pubdic utility
and a private enterprise, and the
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public has every right under
the law to requ6st certain
special services of it.
8.

Who will be legally responsible for the programming
on the community channel?

Under law. the owner of a broad~
casting service is responsible for
the programs carried by his
facilities. But if~ community
television service were established in Thunder Bay, Videon's
liability would be protected in
a number of ways. First of all,
it is possible that the laws will
be. changed. Minister of Communications Eric Kierans said
in a iecent speech that the close
association in law between the
ownership of broadcasting
facilities and the production of
programmes might soon have to
come to an end. He went on:
"I feel that we must consider
carefully the relationship
between the owners of hardware
and the users. The question is
how can you assure equal access
to all potential production
units if the owner of the
hardware a.- lso wants to c0Ji1pete in
the c re at i v·e fie 1 d?" For
Thunder Bay, this means t _h at
just because Videen owns the
hardware doesn't mean that
Videen should do the programming.
After all, the city owns much of
the· hardware, and the · city
itself wouldn't think of - insisting
on doing programming, except in
cooperation with experienced
production personnel. Lakehead
Videon has no production
experience, and has made little
or no efforts to involve the
community in its proposed "community" programming. In fact• it
would seem that Videon's preoccupation at this time is to
let all of the ownership control
of the company pass out of the
hands of local citizens.
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10,

1970)

i

For the past severaf months, Town Talk has been investigating the possibility
of establishing a comm unity television service in Thund er Bay. The purpose of
our presentati9n today is to acquainL the members of Council with our findings,
and to request their endorsement and active support in achie•:;i ng this goal.
Community televisio n is programming that is prod uced and controlled by
. e'"'ple who are potenti ally both participants and audience. Whereas commer" , r,et.work television has provided external pre-packag ed entertainment interr&gt; .... ,,ed with news and national commentary, there are five
important functions
1
tt o local level which have until now not been possible. These are:
a. Communication of common concerns
b. Understanding between groups which have hitherto lacked opportu'lity for
dialogue
c. Participation in t he daily I ife of the community
d. 1nfmmation about the many services and activities available, but frequently unknown to the cit'izens
e. Establishment of a sense of community which can contribute to the ongoing process of am algamation.
' The mobility and si mplicity of portable videotape equ ipment make it possible
to provide access to tel evision for th.ese functions to all our citizens. This accessibility can permit the people to shape the programmes where in the past the
programmes have shaped the people.
/\long with portable low-cost equipment, the existence of a cable transmission
system makes communi ty television technically possible. Thunder Bay is one of
the most completely w ired cities in North America. Th us the service can be
available to virtually all citizens who choose to subscribe. Finally, the capability
of cable to de.liver a la rge number of ch~rnnels, the majority of which are presently unused, makes community programming possible without depriving the
viewer of access to existing programmes.
Ciearly a charter m ust be drawn u·p to provide guidel ines for the service. As
the goal is a community service, it must be directed by a broadly based com-mun;ty i..&gt;oard to ensure that no group or individual sha ll have a monopoly on
programming. This non-profit "Charter Board" would be the community's safeguard to see that the charter is adhered· to by those persons responsible for the
actual co-ordination and production of programmes.
On the basis of these considerations ifis our"'request:
1.
That the Council of t he City of Thunder Bay approve in principle the followi'ng
propositions.a. Thunder Bay needs a community television channel,
b. The facilities of Lakehead Videon Ltd. ·are those through which the community channel sh all be cablecast, ,
c. The Community channel shall be financed through subscription revenues
from the cable service,
d. The community channel shall be directed and controlled by an independent
body drawing representation from all segments of the community.
2. That the Council request Town Talk to draw up a feasible charter for the
directing body.
In order that suffici ent flexibility be retained to permit adjustments consistent
with such community cable regulations as may be established by the Canadian
Radio-T~levision Commission, and given that it is the intention of TQwn Talk to
make the strongest possible representation to the C.R.T.C. 'in support of our
proposal for community television, we would further recommend that the present
contrac1. with Lakehead Videon Ltd. not be renewell for a period longer than six
months.

�TO\iVN T'ALK
Box 692 -

Postal Station P,

THUNDER BAY~ ONTARIO

When Town Talk takes its proposal
before the CRTC it will be requested that special. pertniss ion be
given to Lakehead Videen, and
to any other cable companies which
,dsh to cooperate with a genuine
community service television organization, to consider itself exempt
from liability for material broadcast over community television.
The CRTC has power to make this
decision.
Locally, in its agreements with
Videen the city has always protected itself against all
forms of liability. The current
agreeJ11ent between the old city of
Fort l\'il l iam and Lakehead Vicleon,
for example, has three separate
clauses protecting the city
against legal obl~gations arising
out of Videon's use of city
facilities. If the community
channel were formed, Vi&lt;leon would
be dble to protect itself in much
the sarne way as the city pro-,
tects itself now. In addition, the
Charter Board for the community
channel could post· a substantial
bond guaranteeing its responsibility.
Town Talk's lawyers advise that
there has only been one recent
action against television broadcasters, that such actions are
extremely rare, and that there is
no reason whatever to believe
that this is a significant
difficulty in the formation of
a community controlled television s~rvice.

CONTRIBUTIONS TO THIS NEWSLETTER
ARE INVITED. THE TOWN TALK MAILING ADDRESS IS BOX 692, THUNDER
BAY P.
Page 10

On the preceeding page is
a reproduction of page one
of the brief concerning
community television wh.ich
Town Talk presented to City
Council on August 10. A
limited number of complete
copies are available at the
Town Talk office at the
south en&lt;l of the CPR station
in Port Arthur Ward.

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